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The 'Phoenix' range of coaching stock kits is continually being extended to other railways/regions apart from the SR (click GWR for GWR kits, LNER for LNER kits or LMS for LMS kits).
To place an order, please contact:
Phoenix Sales Manager, C Knowles-Thomas, 60 Dykes End, Collingham, NEWARK, Notts, NG23 7LD
(e-mail: chriskthomas@waitrose.com)
For further technical details contact:
Phoenix Production Manager, C Knowles-Thomas, 60 Dykes End, Collingham, NEWARK, Notts, NG23 7LD
(tel: 01636-892010; e-mail: chriskthomas@waitrose.com)
These Kits are only available in 4mm Scale.
Photographs of completed kits can be seen by clicking on those Product Codes and Descriptions which appear in underlined coloured script.
Phoenix coach kits are used as a basis for producing exhibition standard models at Pendon museum.
Each coach body kit contains:
Cast ends, punched sides, floor pan, sole bars and roof in aluminium, vents, buffers, vee hangers, vacuum cylinder, dynamo, non-specific battery boxes, partitioning, glazing, instructions, scale plans, historical data plus other detailing parts as applicable.Please note that any coach from any set can be purchased separately, as can any component.
Production of Phoenix Kits is labour intensive and with some 350 types in our catalogue, the punched sides for a particular kit may not be available in stock. Replenishment of stock is best carried out on a batch production basis, so therefore please allow at least eight to twelve weeks for your kit to be delivered. In the event that we cannot meet this timescale, we will endeavour to advise you.
LSWR/SR/BR 'Ironclad'
SR/BR 'Thanet' Corridor Coaches (body kits only)
When the SR was formed very little corridor stock was inherited from the SECR, yet there was an urgent need for modern stock on the Eastern Section. At 9'-0" the 'Ironclads' were too wide for some routes in North Kent so Maunsell and Lynes (see later) produced a design that was the same length but reduced in width to 8'-6" (Restriction 1). Like the 'Ironclads' they had British Standard gangways and screw couplings (whereas the subsequent 'Maunsell standard' stock had Pullman gangways and buckeye couplers). The 'Thanets' displayed certain SECR details, perhaps the more noticeable being the 'L' shaped commode handles.
For those requiring more information we would recommend "An Illustrated History of Southern Coaches" by our member Mike King (OPC 2003) and "Maunsell's SR Steam Carriage Stock" by David Gould (Oakwood 2000) both of which have chapters on the 'Thanets'. Also recommended are the drawings made by Mike King, to whom application including an SAE should be made, at: 16 Barricane, St Johns Hill Road, Woking, Surrey, GU21 1RB.
Only three tyoes of 'Thanets' were produced as listed below:
Code Description Built Diag Price SC80 Third 1924-5 53 £26.00 SC81 5 Compartment Brake Third 1924-5 165 £26.00# SC82 Composite 1924-5 317 £26.00# # Under development, please enquire before ordering.Please Note : These kits contain ends which are, strictly, of LMS pattern though they are the correct scale width, ie 8'-6". If you prefer to make your own ends we can supply these kits without ends at £22.00 each.An unlucky group of coaches, out of seventy-seven 'Thanets' built, nine were lost in accidents or through enemy action in WW2. Early set formations were fluid, but by 1928 there were eight sets made up wholly of 'Thanets': 4-sets Nos 388 & 425, 6-set 423, 7-sets 424, 460, 461 & 463 and 8-set 462, plus many loose examples. The 6, 7 & 8-sets (except 463) had, in addition, a first, later composite, Pullman inserted to provide refreshments. These eight sets survived until 1959 but the length and composition varied over the years, and non-'Thanets' appeared in some in the later years. Further details may be found in 'Appendices to the Carriage Working Notices' held in the SRG Library or in SRG Data Sheets. Others were 'loose' and in 1946 some thirds were formed in two car sets 331-3 with SECR Wainwright birdcage corridor brake composites for Ashford-Hastings services.
SR/BR Maunsell
The listing of Maunsell passenger stock is arranged in approximate order of body styles and construction dates.
For prices and brief historical notes about the Maunsell coaches click here.
Please note that £poa indicates a kit that is either not currently in stock or has non-standard features, price available on application.
SR Bulleid Steam Hauled Coaches
For prices and brief historical notes about the Bulleid coaches, click here
SECR/SR/BR
Kits SC70-76 have been withdrawn.
SR/BR Electric Multiple Units
For prices and brief historical notes about Southern Electric Multiple Units etc, click here
Detailing Items for SR Coaches
Ref Description Price SR04 Utility Van (B,BY,PMV,CCT etc) buffers sprung kit: Cast stocks/steel heads and springs 4 £ 3.00 SR04A Buffers as above but without springs to make rigid 4 £ 2.00 SR07 Cast oval Portsmouth buffers 4 £ 1.50 SR08 Cast buffers, 2-BIL 2001-2116 4 £ 1.50 SR09 Cast Southern EMU buffers 4 £ 1.50 SR10 Cast oval Bulleid/Maunsell buffers in retracted position 4 £ 1.50 SR22 EMU centre buffer and rubbing plate 4 £ 1.00 SR21 SR Guard's periscope 6 £ 1.00 SR26 Maunsell Double battery boxes, detailed castings, lightweight 2 £ 1.75 SR34 LSWR Ironclad door /window vents 20 £ 1.75 SR57 Ironclad/Maunsell grab handles, etched by Roxey Mouldings 63 £ 2.00 SR33 Maunsell door /window vents 20 £ 1.75 SR36 'T' Door handles, etched by Roxey Mouldings 120 £ 2.00 SR44 Bulleid Table Lamps 16 £ 2.25 SR49 Etched SR Window Grilles, Van B (Roxey) set £ 2.00 SR49a Etched SR Window Grilles, for Bogie Luggage Vans (Roxey Mouldings) set £ 2.00 SR49b Etched SR Window Bars, for Van U/CCT/PMV (Roxey Mouldings) set £ 2.00 SR50 Droplight Grilles, etched by Roxey 15 £ 2.00 SR51 SR Droplight frames (plastic) 20 £ 1.50 SR39 SECR coach grab handles, etched by Roxey Mouldings 90 £ 2.00 SR70 LSWR coach grab handles, etched by Roxey Mouldings 72 £ 2.00 SR71 LBSCR coach grab handles, etched by Roxey Mouldings 90 £ 2.00Ready made coach gangways:
SR46 Round Top working corridor connections for Ironclad, pair £ 2.50 SR47 Square Top working corridor connections for Maunsell/Bulleid, pair £ 2.50End Castings can be supplied at the following prices:
EMU motor coach sets - driving end castings (front, doors, roof dome, jumpers) inner end, buffers, buffing plate (if appropriate) PUL/CIT/PAN £ 6.00 2-BIL £ 6.00 2-HAL & 4-LAV £ 6.00 4-SUB 1941 £ 6.00 As above but no roof dome 4-COR/RES/BUF £ 5.50 EMU trailer Pullman Car, set of castings - 2 x ends, 4 x doors, 2 x roof domes, buffers £ 8.50 EMU motor coach sets - driving end castings (front, jumpers), inner end, buffers, buffing plate 4-SUB (1946) £ 4.50 2,4-EPB, 2-HAP ("Bulleid") £ 4.50 Ironclad Brake End (three pieces), per end £ 2.50 Any other 'one piece' Phoenix coach End casting (except SECR) per end £ 1.50 Any one coach roof from any Phoenix SR kit, excluding brass etched kits £ 3.50 Any one pair of sides from any Phoenix SR kit, excluding brass etched kits £12.00 Any other parts from any Phoenix kit (floor, cast parts etc) £ POA SECR ends (birdcage, step, non-step or P&P) by Roxey Mouldings per end £ 3.15Undergear Kits for Various EMU Cars
All Kits in White Metal with detail drawing for placement of parts. For Postage costs see Order Form.Ref To Fit Price UND 1 SR Portsmouth Electric Motor Brake Third £6.00 UND 2 SR Electric 6PUL/CIT/PAN Motor Brake Third £6.00 UND 3 4EPB Class 415 Motor Brake 2nd £6.50 UND 4 SR 2BIL 1937/39 only & SR 2HAL 1939/40 Motor Brake 3rd & Driving Trailer Compo £7.50 UND 5 SR 2BIL 1935 only, original batch of 10 Motor Brake 3rd & Driving Trailer Compo £5.50 UND 6 SR/BR 4SUB Motor Brake 3rd £6.00 UND 7 SR/BR 4LAV Motor Brake 3rd £6.00 UND 8 BR/SR SUB Class 416 & 418. 2EPB & 2HAP Motor Brake 2nd & Driving Trailer £8.00 UND 9 SR Portsmouth/Bognor Buffet Car £2.50 UND10 SR Portsmouth Restaurant Car £2.50 UND11 SR Portsmouth Kitchen Restaurant 3rd £2.50 UND12 SR 4LAV Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND13 SR 4SUB Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND14 SR Portsmouth Electric Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND15 SR 4EPB Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND16 SR 6PUL Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND17 SR 6CIT/6PAN Brake Cylinder & Reservoir for Trailer Coaches £1.00 UND18 SR 6PUL/6CIT Composite Pullman £2.50 UND19 SR 6PAN Pantry First £1.50Phoenix SR Bogie Kits (wheels NOT included)
We offer 4 bogie options (not all are available for all prototypes):-
'ADJUSTARIDE' Bogies
Comprising etched brass truck, adjustable sprung bolster, sideframes, end bar, rubbing plate, bearings & hardware and life guards where applicable.
NB wheels are NOT included
SAB1 SR 8'0" Standard steam hauled bogie (and intermediate bogies on EMUs) pair £ 7.50 SAB2 9'0" Dummy motor bogie each £ 4.50 SAB3 9'0" LSWR Warner double framed (Dreadnought) bogie pair £ 8.00 SAB4 9'0" LSWR Warner single frame bogie (Vertical suspension) pair £ 7.50 SAB5 8'9" Dummy motor bogie each £ 4.50 SAB6 8'9" Trailer Collector bogie each £ 4.50 SAB7 8'0" LBSCR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 7.50 SAB8 8'0" LSWR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 7.50 SAB9 8'0" Equalised Beam Bogie 6PUL/CIT/5BEL to suit all trailer coaches pair £ 7.50'Springless' Bogies
Specification as 'Adjustaride' above (etched truck etc) but excluding the the springing arrangement
NB wheels are NOT included
SXB1 SR 8'0" Standard steam hauled bogie (and intermediate bogies on EMUs) pair £ 6.50 SXB2 9'0" Dummy motor bogie each £ 4.00 SXB3 9'0" LSWR Warner double framed (Dreadnought) bogie pair £ 7.00 SXB4 9'0" LSWR Warner single frame bogie (Vertical suspension) pair £ 6.50 SXB5 8'9" Dummy motor bogie each £ 4.00 SXB6 8'9" Trailer Collector bogie each £ 4.00 SXB7 8'0" LBSCR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 6.50 SXB8 8'0" LSWR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 6.50 SXB9 8'0" Equalised Beam Bogie 6PUL/CIT/5BEL to suit all trailer coaches pair £ 6.50Cosmetic Bogies
Comprising cosmetic castings only for attaching to the working motor bogie of the modeller's choice or to a CCU unit or any dummy bogie frame that can take a cast side frame. A kit for a pair of bogies contains four sideframes; a single bogie kit contains two sideframes. In addition, motor bogies contain tw shoe beams and lifeguards.
SCB1 SR 8'0" Standard steam hauled bogie (and intermediate bogies on EMUs) pair £ 4.00 SCB2 9'0" Portsmouth motor bogie single £ 2.50 SCB3 9'0" LSWR Warner double framed (Dreadnought) bogie (set comprises 4 inner frames and 4 outer frames) pair £ 5.00 SCB4 9'0" LSWR Warner single frame bogie (Vertical suspension) pair £ 4.00 SCB5 8'9" Dummy motor bogie single £ 2.50 SCB6 8'9" Trailer collector bogie single £ 2.50 SCB7 8'0" LBSCR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 4.00 SCB8 8'0" LSWR Fox Pressed Steel pair £ 4.00 SCB9 8'0" Equalised Beam Bogie 6PUL/CIT/5BEL to suit all trailer coaches pair £ 4.00Rigid Bogies
Comprising all cast whitemetal parts
SRB1 SR 8'0" Standard steam hauled bogie pair £ 5.50 SRB5 8'9" Dummy motor bogie each £ 3.25 SRB6 8'9" Trailer collector bogie each £ 3.25Phoenix "Ready-to-Run" Power Bogies
These motor bogies are based on the 35mm wheelbase TENSHODO "SPUD" with 14mm wheels and are fitted with the correct Phoenix side-frames etc to suit your model.
SMB2 SR 9'-0" powered motor bogie, each £ 60.00 SMB5 SR 8'-9" powered motor bogie, each £ 60.00Notes re-prototype use of Phoenix SR bogies
SR Standard 8' bogies (SAB1, SCB1, SXB1 & SRB1) are fitted to Maunsell and Bulleid corridor stock, also the trailer bogies on most EMUs (but see below). A few Ironclads and the 1935-6 Rebuilds of LSWR stock also had these bogies.
9' motor bogies (SAB2, SXB2, SCB2, SMB2) were fitted to the outer ends of 4COR/4RES/4BUF motor coaches, and two were fitted to each 6PUL/6CIT/6PAN & 5BEL motor coach.
The 9' LSWR Warner Double Framed ('Dreadnought') Bogie (SAB3, SXB3 and SCB3) was fitted to the early Ironclad coaches, 7/21 to 3/23.
The LSWR Warner single framed 9' bogie (SAB4, SXB4 and SCB4) was fitted to the majority of the Ironclads, 6/23 to 12/25.
The 8' 9" Motor Bogie (SAB5, SXB5, SCB5, SRB5, SMB5) was fitted to the outer ends of suburban and semi-fast motor coaches ie 2BIL, 2HAL, 4SUB, 4LAV, 2EPB, 4EPB, 2HAP.
The 8' 9" Trailer Collector Bogie (SAB6, SXB6, SCB6 and SRB6) was fitted to the outer ends of driving trailers of 2-car EMUs ie 2BIL, 2HAL, 2EPB, 2HAP.
Fox's Pressed Steel Bogies (SAB7, SXB7 and SCB7; SAB8, SXB8, SCB8) were used by many pre-grouping Companies.
The 8'-0" equalised beam bogies (SAB9, SXB9 and SCB9) were fitted to trailer coaches of 6PUL/CIT and 5BEL units. These were rebuilt with leaf springs from 1955-6. At present these modified bogies are not in our range - if anyone has a drawing or a clear photograph - please, please, please....!!
Transfers
The Southern Railways Group provide a range of transfers to enable modellers to finish their carriage stock with selected numbers. Please click here for further details.
SR Modellers
Please note that a range of items such as wheels, seating, ventilators and other components are available for completing and detailing the coach kits listed on this page, in addition to the SR specific items given above.
Go to the general sales page for information
Members receive approximately a 10% discount.
Click here to download a sales form which may be printed out, your order filled in, then posted to the group.
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